Thursday, March 31, 2011

Flexible_Training

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============================================================================================================================ I have worked it out using the sourcecode. To retrieve variables in forms from your process, you can use two Freemarker variables: - Task is for human task information fields. Take a look at the Task class and the TaskData class to see what you can access from your template.# This way you can also get to your task metadata like: ${task.taskData.createdOn?datetime} would get the date the task was created. - Content is for your own mapped fields. You will have to make a dataInputAssociaton that has the name of "Content" and use a dataInputAssociation to provide it with a HashMap of the values you want to be available in your template. The HashMap you put into content is accessible by content. from the template. Is this the official way to do it or is there a better way? Thanks. Sam Squire This message may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorised. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator and then immediately delete this message. Although we attempt to sweep e-mail and attachments for viruses, we do not guarantee that either are virus-free and accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of viruses. Please refer to http://www.bnymellon.com/disclaimer/piml.html for certain disclosures. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rule ... @lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users Herbert Schulz wrote: On Oct 16, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: "Once again people fell into the trap of believing the rules their language is using are universal." -- Some wise person writing GNU gettext manual[1] [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_mono/gettext.html#Plural-forms Well, to be fair to Herb, he /was/ referring to SI ("Systeme Internationale") which (of course) his own country has not adopted, along with Burma and Liberia ! ** Phil. Howdy, Maybe not the country but certainly the Physicists have. :-) There were plans but too many people with power were too afraid of backlash. They tried, without success, to use both systems on highways and, of course, that didn't work. I still believe people are quick adapters so just change everything overnight and folks will adapt in short order. Finally, this country seems to have a paranoia about ``internationalizing'' anything. :-( Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) It might be fairer to say that it has been adopted but not implemented. I used to work at NIST (National Institute for Standards and Technology), formerly NBS (National Bureau of Standards) and I asked why they were still using letterpaper and not A4 as they were meant to? The answer I was given was that A4 would not fit into the filing cabinets and there was no budget for new cabinets. Peter W. -------------------------------------------------- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Tuesday, March 29, 2011

arbcombo -- ARB Research Seminar: Effects of Particulate Matter in the Sierra Snowpack

We are pleased to announce the next Series topic:

"Effects of Particulate Matter in the Sierra Snowpack".

Richard A. VanCuren, Ph.D.
Air Resources Board

Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:30 pm – 3:30 pm PDT
Byron Sher Auditorium, 2nd Floor, Cal/EPA Building
1001 I Street, Sacramento, California

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arbcombo -- ARB Research Seminar: DOD Official to Share Real-World Experience Fighting Air Pollution and Climate Change

Slide Presentation is now Available!

"DOD Official to Share Real-World Experience
Fighting Air Pollution and Climate Change".

Michael A. Robert, Ph.D.
US Department of Defense

Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:30 pm – 3:30 pm PDT
Byron Sher Auditorium, 2nd Floor, Cal/EPA Building
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Monday, March 28, 2011

arbcombo -- ARB Research Seminar: Mapping and Inventorying Greenhouse Gases in Californias Air

We are pleased to announce the next Series topic:

"Mapping and Inventorying Greenhouse Gases
in California's Air".

Marc F. Fischer, Ph.D.
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory

and

Sally Newman, Ph.D.
California Institute of Technology

Wednesday, April 6, 2011 3:00 pm – 4:30 pm PDT
Sierra Hearing Room, 2nd Floor, Cal/EPA Building
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================================================================================================================================== #770: cabal is not reading or respecting ~/.cabal/config ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: guest | Owner: Type: defect | Status: new Priority: normal | Milestone: Component: Cabal library | Version: 1.8.0.6 Severity: minor | Keywords: cabal config global directories Difficulty: unknown | Ghcversion: 6.12.3 Platform: Linux | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- I changed my ~/.cabal/config file to keep global packages under /usr/local/lib/haskell and /usr/local/share/haskell to avoid cluttering the main /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/share/doc directories. ghc-pkg finds them just fine, and ghc-pkg recache works as expected. However, when I do 'cabal install whatever --global' it still throws everything into the old default directories, and more distressingly it isn't updating the access timestamp on ~/.cabal/config (as revealed by ls -u.) cabal --version reports 0.8.2 using library 1.8.0.6, nothing else unusual about my setup. -- Ticket URL: < http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/ticket/770 > Hackage < http://haskell.org/cabal/ > Hackage: Cabal and related projects _______________________________________________ cabal-devel mailing list caba ... @haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/cabal-devel

Friday, March 25, 2011

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========================================================================================================================================================== Hi Caleb, Thanks for the answers. Ponder Muse wrote: Hi, I have a few questions about the xwiki's 'import' function and was wondering if I could get answer to any if not all of the following: 1. I have done an 'export' on an xwiki server instance and I then stripped the generated .xar to remove some unwanted spaces within it (this included editing the archive.xml within). When I then try to import the stripped .xar on another xwiki server instance, I get: "There was an error reading the file abc.xar. Error number 0 in 5: Package: Error when reading XML." What does this error mean? Probably that you made a mistake editing the package.xml file. Yes, I've figured as much. But having looked at the file I still couldn't see any obvious problems with it. What I ended up doing though was to leave the .xar intact and then when importing it on another xwiki instance, I selected which spaces to import by ticking the appropriate boxes within the wiki's import page itself. 2. If I am importing a .xar into a server instance via a web browser, then is it ok to do it from a remote client or do I have to be on the same host machine the xwiki server is on? You can do it from a remote machine. 3. If I export spaces which contain attachments to a .xar file. Will the attachments still be available when importing the .xar file on another xwiki instance? If so, where are attachments stored in the .xar file? Yes they will. They are base 64 encoded and stored in the xml file for the page which they are attached to. Great stuff. Once again, thanks! Regards, PM. _______________________________________________ users mailing list use ... @xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Thursday, March 24, 2011

arbcombo -- Tractor-trailer GHG Regulation Workshop Cancellation Notice

The California Air Resources Board (ARB) is canceling three of
the six upcoming training workshops for the Heavy-Duty Vehicle
Greenhouse Gas Emission Reduction Regulation (Tractor-Trailer GHG
Regulation).

The canceled workshops include two in Sacramento on April 6, and
May 2, 2011 and one in El Monte on April 13, 2010. The time and
location of the remaining workshops has not changed.

The workshops that are still scheduled include:
El Monte - Wednesday, May 11, 2011
El Monte – Thursday, June 9, 2011. (Webcast)
Sacramento – Wednesday, June 15, 2011. (Webcast)

At the workshops, staff will provide compliance training and an
overview of the adopted Tractor-Trailer (GHG) Regulation
including details on how to register using our online Truck
Regulation Upload, Compliance and Reporting System (TRUCRS) and
information on how to meet the reporting requirements for 2011
and beyond.

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at: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdiesel/training.htm

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arbcombo -- ARB Research Seminar: DOD Official to Share Real-World Experience Fighting Air Pollution and Climate Change

We are pleased to announce the next Series topic:

"DOD Official to Share Real-World Experience
Fighting Air Pollution and Climate Change".

Michael A. Robert, Ph.D.
US Department of Defense

Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:30 pm – 3:30 pm PDT
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Wednesday, March 23, 2011

Discounted_Properties

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============================================================================================================================ A Diumenge, 22 de març de 2009, Wang Hoi va escriure: Moved to kdereview/plasma/applets/ It's mainly an applet for input methods, so that persons use difference input methods can share the same user interface and the unified systemsettings input method configure integration. And also include a standalone application and a control module for systemsettings now. Its main features: * Multiple backend support, currently support SCIM and IBus(1.1.0+ version) * Able to float out and embbed into panel dynamically, The floating statusbar(a qwidget) is just a view on the same qgraphicswidget. * Skin support: 1. you can choose the skin to follow current plasma theme, then it will auto switch skin when user change plasma theme. 2.use custom theme, support install theme from Get Hot New Stuff 3.use javascript to layout svg, enable the abilities to do adaptive svg layout and "theme" the layout. * KCModule based configure, config pages for ui, backends are combined to one dialog. * Provide a standalone version with floating statusbar only if you don't want to add the applet to panel. Its design is simple, just provide a dbus service for input methods Backends(SCIM,IBus, fcitx ...) <-------->dbus<---------->kimpanel (org.kde. impanel ) communicate by signals only. Currently the above features are finished, Except: * Only one kcmodule for ui now, haven't provide kcmodule for backend, * The kcmodule is working, but lack help text, theme auto preview , other eyecandies........ * The extra two themes are only make for horizontal statusbar and horizontal candidate window layout only, but default theme fully working. And it's also stable now, no crashes in my everyday use. The backend need to be configured before test this applet, see backend/scim/README and backend/ibus/README You can even mix use SCIM and IBus for different types of programs(eg. scim for qt, IBus for xim and gtk), but you still have the same user interface and can't tell the difference without looking at their logo icon. Is there any possibility that backends can be automatically configured? Asking the user to run ibus-daemon --panel=//panel.py is not exactly user friendly Albert I'd like to include it in KDE 4.3 but it will be soft freeze is in early April, So i think i have to ask for review now. GAUDEC 2010 call for papers deadline nearing ============================================ Only three days remain in the GUADEC 2010 call for papers. If you planned to submit, but have not gotten around to it yet, you should act now. Please consult the call for papers text below, and head over to the GUADEC paper submission site at: http://2010.guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/schedConf/cfp Note that the deadline ends on Saturday March 20th, 23:59 UTC. GUADEC call for participation ============================= GUADEC (pronounced GWAH-DECK) is an acronym for the GNOME Users' And Developers' European Conference. Held annually in cities around Europe, GUADEC is the largest get-together of GNOME users, developers, foundation leaders, individuals, governments and businesses in the world. Gnome is the Free and open source software stack that drives the user interface of many Linux-based devices, from smartphones to your home PC. This year's GUADEC in The Hague, the Netherlands, deals with several interesting themes. First and foremost we will of course turn the spotlights on: * the upcoming GNOME 3.0 release. Other hot topics include: * GNOME and the mobile platform; * distributions and platforms. Further topics of special interest: * Search, meta data and the semantic desktop; * Performance - optimizing processor, memory and disk i/o usage; * User experience - designing and writing great applications; * Growing Community - involving the non-technical and recruiting new people. At the same time, This year's venue, the HHS in The Hague, an educational setting in the political heart of the Netherlands, provides a grand opportunity to focus special attention on two other subjects that are of major importance to GNOME: * government desktops based on free and open source software; * free and open source software and citizen empowerment ; * attention for free and open source software in education and the participation of students; Of course, you are free to submit anything that does not fit in those categories, provided that it is relevant for the GNOME community at large. The GUADEC Call for Participation has the following time line: * Saturday, March 20th: Deadline for submission of abstracts * Friday, April 10th: Notification of speakers Please submit your proposal before March 20th through [1]the online paper submission system. Papers will be reviewed by the program committee between March 20th and April 10th. 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Monday, March 21, 2011

Certified_Scanner

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============================================================================================================================ Thank you Virden but sadly I have done what you recommend and still the member is not listed. The error message I get is:- Members Added - Confirmation No new people were added to your group 1 person is already a member and will not be added - view [email address] There is no way of deleting because he is listed nowhere. Cheers Eddy On Mar 25, 12:34 pm, Virden wrote: If you Invited the "missing" member, try looking in the Open Invitations list. A link to that List can be found at the top of the membership List (management tasks -> manage members). That would account for the system reporting that the member is listed. If the e- mail address is in the Open Invitations list, that means the recipient has not responded to the Invitation yet or has responded to only part of it. There are two links in an Invitation. The top one accepts your invitation to join the group. The second link is for verifying the e- mail address and obtaining a Google account and password for that email address. If the person does not already have a Google account for their e-mail address they must click both links in the invitation. If you find the e-mail address in the Open Invitations list, you could unsubscribe it and then Add it directly. You cannot re-Invite or Add an e-mail address that is in the Open Invitations list. If you Added the e-mail address of that person, instead of using an Invitation then it should appear in the membership list. Because you have already looked there and not found it, my guess is that you used an Invitation. On Mar 25, 2:10 am, Napier Quarries wrote: Morning Virden I do not want to labour the point but on there is is a member that I loaded on tohttp://groups.google.com/group/battlefieldsregionguides The address/member is not listed under members or management tasks. If one tries to re-enter the member the system says the member is is listed! The members details are [email address] I would be grateful if you can offer some advise or suggestion. Cu Eddy N On Mar 24, 11:16 pm, Virden wrote: I cannot find a clear question or a description of a problem in your message even though I read all of it carefully. On Mar 24, 3:54 am, Eddy Norris wrote: Just a observation and recommendation and as such I would urge you to receive this information in the manner it is sent! Personally I am a newcomer (does the term newbie still exist) to Groups and their operation. From the onset I signed into all the help forums and receive the mail from them. I spend time reading these errors/complaints and pay attention to the answers and believe it, a wealth of information can be obtained, for further use. I still have much to learn, no doubt will fall and bump my knees but will continue as is. I must be honest and say that I am beginning to believe that there is no fix to the problem of members not being listed on the members page or anywhere else in fact. My application is very simply, on one group I have 800 odd members and on others a 100 plus and one group where all the problem is has 3 but it should reflect 4 members. I wonder if it is worth continuing with this group, the max, we believe, members might be 200http://groups.google.com/group/battlefieldsregionguides Without being rude, can anyone afford me some help and suggestions Thanks and I feel like a captain on a inking boat - please help Miles Nordin < car ... @Ivy.NET > wrote: "js" == Joerg Schilling < Joer ... @fokus.fraunhofer.de > delivered the following alternate reality of idealogical partisan hackery: js> GPLv3 does not give you anything you don't have from CDDL js> also. I think this is wrong. The patent indemnification is totally different: AIUI the CDDL makes the implicit patent license explicit and that's it, but GPLv3 does that and goes further by driving in a wedge against patent pacts, somehow. Both licenses do the same using different words. They both require contributors to give a royalty-free patent usage permission for all patents owned or controlled by the contributor in case they are used by the contributed code. More is not possible. If you believe there is a noticable difference, please explain..... GPLv3 might help with NetApp <-> Oracle pact while CDDL does not. This is a big difference illustrated through a familiar and very relevant example---not sure how to do better than that, Joerg! GPLv3 does not help at all with NetApp as the CDDL already includes a patent grant with the maximum possible coverage. The interesting thing however is that the FSF (before the GPLv3 exists) claimed that the CDDL is a bad license _because_ of it's patent defense claims. Now the FSF does the same as the CDDL ;-) js> The GPLv3 is intentionally incompatible with the GPLv2 This is definitely wrong, if you dig into the detail more. Most GPLv2 programs include a clause ``or any later version'', so adding one GPLv3 file to them just makes the whole project GPLv3, and there's no real problem. You are obviously wrong here: The GPLv3 is definitevely incompatible with the GPLv2 and most software does _not_ include the "or any later clause" by intention. Obviously this clause only makes sense if you trust the FSF, which I do so I include it, but Linus apparently didn't trust them so he struck the clause long ago. Given the fact that the FSF is the biggest license/Copyright violater on code taken from the cdrtools project, it should be obvious that you cannot trust the FSF. so GPLv3 and Apache are compatible while GPLv2 and GPLv3 are not, that is true and is designed. However GPLv2 was also designed to be upgradeable, which was absolutely the FSF's intent, to achieve compatibility, and they have done so with all their old projects like gcc and gnu libc. The Apache-2.0 license grants sub-licensing, so it is one of the few licenses where the end-user or redistributor may not always get all permissions from the original author. If you however like to combine Apache-2.0 code with GPL code and do this acording to the rules written in the GPL, this is still not possible as the Apache-2.0 license does not give you the permission to change the license for code from other contributors. As a result, the only way to combine Apache-2.0 code with GPL code still is to declare the resultant work a "collective work". So there is no difference from combining CDDL code with GPL code. The usual way to accomplish license upgradeability is to delegate your copyright to the organization you trust to know the difference between ``upgrade'' and ``screw you over.'' That's the method Sun forced upon people who had to sign contributor agreements, and is also the method SFLC advises most new free software projects to adopt: don't let individual developers keep licenses, because they'll become obstinate ossified illogical partisan farts like Joerg, or will not answer email, so you can never ever change the license. OK, you just verified that you are just a troll. We need to stop the discussion here. Jörg -- EMail: joe ... @schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js ... @cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joer ... @fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs- ... @opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

arbcombo -- ARB Research Seminars: Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Insulating and Buoyancy Foams

Presentation is Now Available!

"Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Impacts in California
from Insulating and Buoyancy Foams".

Paul K. Ashford, Arnie A. J. Vetter,
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============================================================================================================================================================= On 13/12/2010 10:13 AM, Uwe Wolfram wrote: Dear R-Users, I am currently trying to fit a tensorial function in its principal coorinate system. The function is given by: 1~(x1^2 + x2^2 + x3^2 - chi0*(x1*x2 + x1*x3 + x2*x3))/eps0^2 + (x1 + x2 + x3)/xi0 Where eps0 = 0.0066, chi0 = -0.66 and xi0 = 0.011 are obtained from experimental data using nls().I am able to plot the experimental points that delivered the parameters of the function. For my thesis, however, I need to overlay the fitted surface. So far I am using the following code which wonderfully plots the experimental points in 3D: =================================================================== # from demo(bivar) require(rgl) require(misc3d) require(MASS); # New window open3d() # clear scene: clear3d("all") # setup env. That is, background, light and so on: bg3d(color="#887777") light3d() # spheres at points in principal strain space #spheres3d(e1,e2,e3,radius=0.00025,color="#CCCCFF") # draws points alternatively plot3d(e1,e2,e3, col="#CCCCFF") =================================================================== According to the examples on http://rgl.neoscientists.org/gallery.shtml I tried to overlay the point plot using surface3d. However, these were only functions of type y ~f(x1, x2). I think that the surface could be plotted if I could provide the gridpoints correctly. Using xyz.coords(1~(x1^2 + x2^2 + x3^2 - chi0*(x1*x2 + x1*x3 + x2*x3))/eps0^2 + (x1 + x2 + x3)/xi0, y = NULL, z = NULL) did unfortunately not solve the problem. Is there any function that can generate the surface for the given function such as ContourPlot3D in Mathematica. See ?misc3d::contour3d ______________________________________________ R-h ... @r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

Thursday, March 17, 2011

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============================================================================================================================ On 07/01/2010 03:29 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 03/ 1/10 12:23 AM, Sharpie wrote: John Maindonald wrote: I came across this notice of an upcoming webinar. The issues identified in the first paragraph below seem to me exactly those that the R project is designed to address. The claim that "most research software is barely fit for purpose compared to equivalent systems in the commercial world" seems to me not quite accurate! Comments! It can be argued that this is a reporting bias. Whenever I inform people doing epidemiology with Excel about Ian Buchan's paper on Excel errors: http://www.nwpho.org.uk/sadb/Poisson%20CI%20in%20spreadsheets.pdf there is a sort of reflexive disbelief, as though something as widely used as Excel could not possibly be wrong. That is to say, most people using commercial software, especially the sort that allows them to follow a cookbook method and get an acceptable (to supervisors, journal editors and paymasters) result simply accept it without question. The counterweight to the carefree programming style employed by many researchers (I include myself) is the multitude of enquiring eyes that find our mistakes, and foster a continual refinement of our programs. I just received one this evening, about yet another thing that I had never considered, perfect agreement by rating methods in a large trial. Thus humanity bootstraps upward. My AUD0.02 Jim ______________________________________________ R-h ... @r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. Hi, We're evaluating the option of migrating a Spring MVC app to grails and it struck me as strange that Grails controllers are not singletons (unlike the Spring MVC default). Other than allowing controller instance properties to be passed to the view by default, are there any other advantages, in productivity, expressiveness, performance or otherwise to creating controllers for every request instead of using a single thread-safe instance like it's done for Services? Is using controller instance variables very common in Grails? Am I missing something very obvious? One advantage of using singleton controllers is that it is very trivial to cache controller-specific data (e.g. reference data for views, select/option choices, constants, etc.). With Grails controllers this has to be externalized to Services or other ad-hoc POGOs. What are we gaining from having controllers scoped as prototype that counterweights the convenience of quick, shared local storage? Are there any best practices for managing reference data for controllers and views in Grails that do not depend on creating a Service or utility class? Populating them in BootStrap and placing them in the ApplicationContext as beans? Thanks for your insights, Ike -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Why-are-controllers-prototype-instead-of-singleton--tp22337213p22337213.html Sent from the grails - user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email

Tuesday, March 15, 2011

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============================================================================================================================================================== On 2009-03-17 11:51, Richard Zander wrote: Rank counts. There are only two ways to signal information in classifications, and those are rank and groupings. Enforcing monophyly limits rank as an informational metric. Allowing paraphyly limits grouping as an informational metric. A classification that includes all the saurischians in Aves and the rest of the dinosaurs in Reptilia precludes the acceptance of a classification that includes only the velociraptor-warbler clade in Aves and the rest of the saurischia in Reptilia. As I put it to Ken once, paraphyletic groups don't play well with others. -- Curtis Clark http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/ Director, I&IT Web Development 979 6371 University Web Coordinator, Cal Poly Pomona _______________________________________________ Taxacom Mailing List Taxa ... @mailman.nhm.ku.edu http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/mailman/listinfo/taxacom The Taxacom archive going back to 1992 may be searched with either of these methods: (1) http://taxacom.markmail.org Or (2) a Google search specified as: site:mailman.nhm.ku.edu/pipermail/taxacom your search terms here Hello, I'm having trouble installing Cocoon 2.2 using Maven. Please see attached install log. Any advice would be much appreciated, I have spent hours on this! Thanks Gary GARY BROWNE | Development Programmer Library IT Services | University Library THE UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY Level 1, Fisher Library F03 | The University of Sydney | NSW | 2006 T 2 9351 5946 | F 2 9036 0000 E gary ... @sydney.edu.au | W http://sydney.edu.au Sent from my plain old desktop computer. CRICOS 00026A This email plus any attachments to it are confidential. Any unauthorised use is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please delete it and any attachments. Please think of our environment and only print this e-mail if necessary. [root@blah anthologise ]# mvn archetype:generate -DarchetypeCatalog= http://cocoon.apache.org [INFO] Scanning for projects... [INFO] Searching repository for plugin with prefix: 'archetype'. [INFO] org.apache.maven.plugins: checking for updates from central [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'org.apache.maven.plugins' could not be retrieved from repository: central due to an error: Error transferring file: Connection timed out [INFO] Repository 'central' will be blacklisted [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ERROR] BUILD ERROR [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] The plugin 'org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin' does not exist or no valid version could be found [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] For more information, run Maven with the -e switch [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] Total time: 3 minutes 21 seconds [INFO] Finished at: Fri Oct 23 14:40:15 EST 2009 [INFO] Final Memory: 1M/3M [INFO] ------------------------------------------ I then added settings.xml to /root/.m2 and it worked except: Missing: ---------- 1) org.apache.velocity:velocity:jar:1.5 Try downloading the file manually from the project website. Then, install it using the command: mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.apache.velocity -DartifactId=velocity -Dversion=1.5 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/path/to/file Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the file there: mvn deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=org.apache.velocity -DartifactId=velocity -Dversion=1.5 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[url] -DrepositoryId=[id] Path to dependency: 1) org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:maven-plugin:2.0-alpha-4 2) org.apache.maven.archetype:archetype-common:jar:2.0-alpha-4 3) org.apache.velocity:velocity:jar:1.5 2) dom4j:dom4j:jar:1.6.1 Try downloading the file manually from the project website. Then, install it using the command: mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=dom4j -DartifactId=dom4j -Dversion=1.6.1 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/path/to/file Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the file there: mvn deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=dom4j -DartifactId=dom4j -Dversion=1.6.1 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[url] -DrepositoryId=[id] Path to dependency: 1) org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:maven-plugin:2.0-alpha-4 2) org.apache.maven.archetype:archetype-common:jar:2.0-alpha-4 3) dom4j:dom4j:jar:1.6.1 3) velocity:velocity-dep:jar:1.4 Try downloading the file manually from the project website. Then, install it using the command: mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=velocity -DartifactId=velocity-dep -Dversion=1.4 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/path/to/file Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the file there: mvn deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=velocity -DartifactId=velocity-dep -Dversion=1.4 -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[url] -DrepositoryId=[id] Path to dependency: 1) org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:maven-plugin:2.0-alpha-4 2) org.apache.maven.archetype:archetype-common:jar:2.0-alpha-4 3) org.codehaus.plexus:plexus-velocity:jar:1.1.3 4) velocity:velocity:jar:1.4 5) velocity:velocity-dep:jar:1.4 ---------- 3 required artifacts are missing. for artifact: org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:maven-plugin:2.0-alpha-4 from the specified remote repositories: central ( http://repo1.maven.org/maven2 ), apache.snapshots ( http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository ) THIS WORKED, but then when running: mvn archetype:generate -DarchetypeCatalog= http://cocoon.apache.org again, I get this new error: [WARNING] Error reading archetype catalog http://cocoon.apache.org java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: protocol = http host = null at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:919) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getHeaderField(HttpURLConnection.java:2019) at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(HttpURLConnection.java:376) at org.apache.maven.wagon.providers.http.LightweightHttpWagon.fillInputData(LightweightHttpWagon.java:115) at org.apache.maven.wagon.StreamWagon.getInputStream(StreamWagon.java:116) at org.apache.maven.wagon.StreamWagon.getIfNewer(StreamWagon.java:88) at org.apache.maven.wagon.StreamWagon.get(StreamWagon.java:61) at org.apache.maven.archetype.source.RemoteCatalogArchetypeDataSource.getArchetypeCatalog(RemoteCatalogArchetypeDataSource.java:89) at org.apache.maven.archetype.DefaultArchetype.getRemoteCatalog(DefaultArchetype.java:197) at org.apache.maven.archetype.ui.DefaultArchetypeSelector.getArchetypesByCatalog(DefaultArchetypeSelector.java:283) at org.apache.maven.archetype.ui.DefaultArchetypeSelector.selectArchetype(DefaultArchetypeSelector.java:74) at org.apache.maven.archetype.mojos.CreateProjectFromArchetypeMojo.execute(CreateProjectFromArchetypeMojo.java:180) at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultPluginManager.executeMojo(DefaultPluginManager.java:490) at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoals(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:694) at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeStandaloneGoal(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:569) at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoal(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:539) at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeGoalAndHandleFailures(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:387) at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeTaskSegments(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:284) at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.execute(DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:180) at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute(DefaultMaven.java:328) at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.execute(DefaultMaven.java:138) at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.main(MavenCli.java:362) at org.apache.maven.cli.compat.CompatibleMain.main(CompatibleMain.java:60) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585) at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.launchEnhanced(Launcher.java:315) at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.launch(Launcher.java:255) at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.mainWithExitCode(Launcher.java:430) at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:375) Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: protocol = http host = null at sun.net.spi.DefaultProxySelector.select(DefaultProxySelector.java:146) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(HttpURLConnection.java:775) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(HttpURLConnection.java:705) at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:949) at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(HttpURLConnection.java:367) ... 28 more [INFO] No archetype defined. Using maven-archetype-quickstart (org.apache.maven.archetypes:maven-archetype-quickstart:1.0) Choose archetype: Choose a number: : and the command line is unresponsive. Then tried: mvn archetype:generate and chose 34: cocoon-22-archetype-block from the list Then I ran: mvn jetty:run [INFO] Compilation failure /usr/local/ anthologise /anthologiser/src/main/java/au/edu/usyd/library/april-dev/MyBean.java:[17,33] ';' expected SO: then I deleted the application directory and ran: mvn archetype:generate again, this time choosing: 35: internal -> cocoon-22-archetype-webapp [INFO] BUILD SUCCESSFUL Then I changed to the application directory and ran: mvn jetty:run [ERROR] BUILD ERROR [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] Webapp source directory /usr/local/ anthologise /anthologies/target/anthologies-1.0-SNAPSHOT does not exist Then I changed the version of Jetty in pom.xml from 6.1.7 to 6.0.2 and ran: mvn jetty:run again. Same error: [INFO] Webapp source directory /usr/local/ anthologise /anthologies/target/anthologies-1.0-SNAPSHOT does not exist So I created the stinkin' directory: mkdir anthologies-1.0-SNAPSHOT and ran: mvn jetty:run again. [INFO] web.xml does not exist at location /usr/local/ anthologise /anthologies/target/anthologies-1.0-SNAPSHOT/WEB-INF/web.xml --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: user ... @cocoon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user ... @cocoon.apache.org

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============================================================================================================================ On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 05:06:25PM -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 02:57:43PM -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On my 1600x1200 screen I am getting a totally unreadable mess with a bunch of crazy hieroglyphics (icons) with absolutely undecipherable titles. Where some letters can be distinguished they are obviously doubles. What is more there is no obvious way to try to fix this mess (yes, I guessed where some purported configurations may be). The text in your screenshot doesn't look to me like a configuration problem. It looks like a bug, perhaps specific to your hardware, perhaps not. FWIW, on my screen, it's actually readable (running F15 as of this morning). You are extremely generous calling that "text". The hardware is SyncMaster 213T LCD Samsung monitor, 1600x1200, driven by a DVI-0 digital output of a radeon card using kernel modesetting. With something other than gnome-shell this has a very nice and stable picture. I am afraid of even think how this may look on a lesser hardware. Besides, as I already mentioned, color schemes and other settings are absolutely unacceptable (but at this moment at least they do not look like adjustable - I am afraid that this may be another "design decision"). Michal -- test mailing list te ... @lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test Notes from today's call BusDocs 11/8/2010 Michael, Rob, Tim, Josef, Bruce Problems of round trip between aggregated document and map If you move or delete a topic in the map, how does the aggregated doc know what to do? in map such that you don't want it in the aggregated document. If the map is altered, the person making the change is responsible for consequences. There must be a content architect. 1. Simple scenario: agg auth is for subset of DITA users In that subset, the map doesn't get modified. Rearranging order can be OK -- my call was dropped "UCM down, features disabled" -- 2. Can create alternative maps, generate alternative agg docs. 3. Someone wants to 'enhance' a map element for publishing purpose (, etc.) One solution is to use a secondary map for intruded content. 4. If we manage ag doc as monolithic doc, n.p. But reuse, routing for review, etc. Can reuse by conref in composite topic. 5. If map architect wants to make more intrusive changes to the map (add, delete, move), it's just like someone making such changes with no consideration of agg auth. 6. One version as above, second version could specialize to support keeping track of such matters by persisting relevant subset of map attributes and elements in the agg doc. Probably Michael will want this, just to cover the propensity of adopters to do whatever is possible, even if we advise against it. Tagless editors may not be able to handle all that is required. Users of tagged editors will want to keep the tag set as simple as possible. So will it be practical? We shouldn't presume the answer. Josef: Experienced 'frequent writers' ('professional' writers) are fine working with a map. Restrict what the less capable writers can do so as to avoid problems. The basic form of a document is as a map and topics, the agg doc form is temporary for authoring. Restrict the changes in the aggregated state. Simplistic users won't make such changes anyway. Only more capable authors can make such changes, and they do it in the map. Rob: May be working with a file system, not a CMS. In that case, everything stays in the aggregated document, there is no occasion for a map. Bruce: This sounds more and more like an Adoption TC issue. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php

Friday, March 11, 2011

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============================================================================================================================ On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Ron Loftin wrote: ELrepo site, I can mount an NTFS filesystem, and when I type "mount" with no options the output tells me that the target filesystem is mounted read-write. However, when I try to create a file on that filesystem as root, I get a "Permission denied" error, which leads me to think that I'm missing something here. Stupid question: BEFORE you mount, what are the permissions on the mount point? Those permissions can affect what you can do with the mounted filesystem. Once you mount the filesystem it's awfully hard to figure out what the problem is because the original mount point permissions are hidden... That one has gotten me before, but a wiser SA than myself warned me before I ever came across it, so I didn't spin my wheels _too_ long looking for the problem! That would have been a real hair-puller otherwise. I don't know whether current Unix/Linux systems behave in the same manner, but SunOS/Solaris used to. -- Curt Mills, WE7U hacker at fluke dot com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U "The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Marion Hakanson wrote: It's not easy to get them right, and usually the hardest task is in figuring out what the users want, so we don't use them unless the users' needs cannot be met using traditional Unix/POSIX permissions. We've got a web GUI that hides the complexity from end users, pretty much they see a list of files/directories, and pick users/groups with read only or read/write. We offer access to central user/group space via CIFS (currently samba in s10, with an eye towards opensolaris/in-kernel server), web, scp/sftp, kerberized NFSv4, and interactive unix login. The web server enforces ACL's, so users can restrict their web content by them. We've had a similar environment based on DCE/DFS for over 10 years (we're just about ready to shut that down, having completed migrating everything over) and our users have become quite acclimatized to the flexibility that this gives them to set access control once and have it respected regardless of access protocol. and using inheritance to propagate them to any new items which are added to shared areas. What protocols/access methods are used to get to the underlying zfs filesystem? The main ACL problem we've having now (having resolved most of them, yay) is interaction with chmod() and legacy mode bits, and the disappointing ease with which an undesired chmod can completely destroy an ACL. I finally ended up having to preload a shared library that disables chmod() into samba, which resolved our issues for CIFS. I still haven't found a way to keep users' ACL's from being wiped by rogue non-ACL aware command/utilities (including, as it turns out, Solaris' own chgrp command). Unfortunately, there's currently no global way to prevent manipulation of legacy mode bits from destroying ACL's. I've been working around particular instances of the problem (such as the preloaded shared library for samba, or using "chown :" rather than chgrp), but it's a losing battle. There are 40 odd years of non-ACL aware stuff out there, it's intractable to try and fix it all on a case by case basis. Given ZFS's description as having a "pure acl" model, it really seems there should be some way to prevent those ACL's from getting wiped out at the drop of a chmod. The scripting also (sorta) covers the problem that most backup and file transfer utilities are not capable of backing up and restoring the NFSv4-style ACL's on ZFS. We have a central Netbackup deployment. Supposedly it supports ZFS ACL's, although I've never actually tested that. I suppose I should at some point 8-/. If we can't find some clean way to maintain ACL sanity, we might have to start storing ACL's in metadata files (maintained in lockstep by our web control app), and having a job run around and restore broken ACL's on files/directories on an ongoing basis. That would be pretty kludgy :(, but better than sensitive data suddenly becoming world readable because somebody's favorite editor feels the need to chmod a file after creation to match the permissions it thinks it should have had based on the umask. Talk about a security deficiency . Thanks for the info... -- Paul B. 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Thursday, March 10, 2011

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011

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============================================================================================================================ Neal Watkins scribeva in 24/01/2006 21:30: I actually have a word doc with the Japanese translations - but applying to a webpage is a total different thing. Ok. I cannot get it to render correctly Do i need a specofic font? Yes. You'll need a font which includes Japanese characters. See below. do all the japanese fonts need to be converted into character code? Kind of unanswerable :-) first time dealing with asian languages obviously Okey :-) So back to basics then. And sorry, I'll start with really elementary basics, please don't get bored. I'll also (over)simplify things, so excuse that too. - computers don't deal with letters or other characters, only with numbers - so any letter or character in any language must be converted to a number so that a computer can deal with it - this is called character coding - obviously decoder must agree with encoder on what letter is what number (i.e. what is the letters 'codepoint') - this is what is referred to with 'character sets' Characters used in English can easily be represented with just 7-bit sequences (127 available codepoints), many European languages require full 8-bit bytes, but for Hiragana/Katakana that would hardly suffice, let alone if your text has Kanji characters - about 50,000 codepoints required... This is where Unicode steps in - it is possible to use many bytes for one character. Fonts map codepoints to their graphical representations - letters and characters. So "japanese fonts need to be converted into character code?" is an upside down question... character codes are converted to visible letters with fonts - if a font doesn't have a letter for a given codepoint, a question mark is often displayed instead. So I'd say that it's time for you to take the plunge in murky waters of character coding - after a while it all starts making sense, and then it'll be easy for you to make sites using any writing system, be it Latin alphabet, kanji or cuneiforms ... Start with these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/index.html .k On Monday 13 September 2010, Artur Duque de Souza wrote: Hi Marco, On Monday 13 September 2010 16:10:54 Marco Martin wrote: now, maybe when qtcomponents will be ready it could be decided to just use those widgets, again if they will be good enough for the desktop. That's what I'm trying to say: qt-components will probably never be "ready" as the conclusion of the project is that it's not worth it providing a [...] Summary: qt-components is not going to solve the problem for platform developers. They will need to write their widgets. Qt-components just show how to do in with less pain. ah, that's interesting. i understood that they were supoposed to have a part with the logic and a separate qml file for the styling that would have been platform specific? i should check what code there is in at the moment ;) Another path is to just do the bindings, but they will not work 100%...if we don't create "false hopes" that everything is going to work it's fine :) (example, without 4.7.1 the qgw exported to QML just don't work on Flickable items - nobody is maintaining this so regressions can also be expected). yeah, it will be a bit painful at start but the only short term way. in that particular case events get stolen, so they need a mousearea on top of it or to be in a plasma flickable widget, all of that needs to be documented. Or alternatively we can also decide that we really need to wait for them ad delay the complete bindings at this point, but wouldn't seem a particularly wise move for me, also because would basically mean plasma mobile not happening. I'm not saying that we choose one or another. My point is: we can do something (bindings) for the short term, but for long term we should start thinking about doing it as it's expected. Also to avoid headaches for us :) From my point of view it's not orthogonal: either bindings or proper yeah, that is what i was trying to say :) if we want to have something quickly what we have now needs to be used. i agree in the long term things should be done in a proper way. (for an hypotethic kde5 we could have just those, even) components. From my point of view we can use the bindings for short term (4.6) and should start thinking about components for the long term. until then, a solution already is in there, judging from a couple of pretty complex uis i did with it, works quite good, so i don't much see the point of all of this discussion, because the real problem is one and completely unrelated: the use of the private class for dataengine bindings. The point of the discussion is just that you got a sentence out of context and is thinking that I'm arguing that is either one or another. My options are not exclusive - just the opposite: I think we should go for both. yes, exactly, i misunderstood that part :) to me a distinct short and long term plans should be in place For the use of private classes on dataengine bindings: also don't expect for 4.7 the export of classes...it may happen on 4.8 but no idea when it's going out :P So we need to think together about a way of getting rid of it. Which private classes are being used? it's qdeclarativeopenmetaobject (that drags in also qdeclarativerefcount and the private of qobject) i think options are basically 2: - try to write something simple that doesn't use qdeclarativeopenmetaobject that could be even a bit overkill for it, will try today - keep an internal copy of all the thing if it's likely to be exported in future versions as far i see from the sources a caching seems involved (qdeclarativepixmapcache), but looks like only memory and no svg renderer sharing, i could be wrong. I would need to check too. Don't remember about this.... it is also not possible to have a borderimage that gets elements of an svg with a certain prefix, it only gets the whole image, all of this it would make impossible to use current themes, in brief break compatibility of wat there is already in. Ok. This justifies the creation of a declarative item that has proper support for our svgs. i'll try that shortly as well. i think those should be exported a Svg and FrameSvg since exporting directly thise classes doesn't make sense (they just offer a qpainter, so couldn't be used at all) Cheers, Marco Martin _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plas ... @kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Tuesday, March 8, 2011

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============================================================================================================================= Hello NetCAT team, please find some time for reading this week's NetCAT status report. 1. Overall summary In spite of NetBeans 6.9 stabilization going forward the bug income from NetCAT team still keeps above 100 new bugs per week. Communication over e-mails even increased slightly to ~16.7 messages per day. Luckily the range of discussed topics was not as uniform as during the week before last. :-) Besides editing features also debugging problems, performance, PHP or Ruby support were talked over. To document that NetCAT 6.9 in general started nicely I am attaching two charts comparing weekly activity since NetCAT 6.5. 2. Important stuff * One of major NetBeans 6.9 features is OSGi bundles interoperability [1][1]. I have seen that 6 NetCAT participants decided to focus on the NetBeans RCP so I believe these guys are interested in this functionality. Has anybody used already existing OSGi bundle in your NetBeans RCP based application? Or did you want to develop your own OSGi bundle that would be used in the platform? Please let us know! [1] [2] http://wiki.netbeans.org/OSGiUserStories * Eric Smith complained that closing a project triggered classpath scanning operation. Eric considers this insane and Scott Palmer ran into that as well. We are aware of similar problems but need more information on that. If you see this often please launch NetBeans with a special switch [2] and then send us your messages.log file for deeper analysis. [2] -J-Dorg.netbeans.modules.parsing.impl.indexing.RepositoryUpdater.level=FINE * Several participants pointed out that there was still a handful of regressions after implementation of the line wrapping feature. Glenn Holmer reopened his incorrect diff issue ([3]#183017), Abderrahim Bajja got a NPE and Keith Davis had his tabs in Editor messed up and right margin line not working ([4]#182673). He is even concerned whether line wrap was worth the destabilization. Honestly, we can always turn it off if quality of editing does not meet its original level. :-( * Keith also does not understand why NetBeans asks him for a Master Password on two Windows 7 machines while his primary development IDE stays silent. Jesse Glick suggested to diagnose what's wrong with keyring implementation on the affected machine. Two more participants agree that current UI is not well designed and filed 5 bugs on that. Keith, please file an issue against platform/Options&Settings [5][3] and attach message.log created with the mentioned switch. [3] [6] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=platform&component=Options%26Settings&short_desc= [69cat]%20 * Nigel Leck initiated a long thread about "Public Inner Class" encapsulation hint which should either have a better description such as "Public Nested Class" or ignore inner enumerations. Niklas Matthies joined Nigel and convinced Jan Lahoda to add a switch allowing to suppress warning about inner enums. * Leonardo Alves da Costa noticed that Quick File Chooser didn't show any content after switching to its classic view. It's reproducible but has a workaround to go one level up and then back. Did you report this already Leonardo? * Ingo Reinhart would like to hear opinion from other PHP developers on his requirement ([7]#183217) to provide a hint for missing method implementations if a class extends other abstract class. Goran Miskovic is convinced that current implementation is correct if missing method is non-abstract and filed [8]#183240 instead. Others? * BTW, are you aware of the new possibility to "View > Show Non-printable Characters"? Check it out if you like it or not. :-) 3. Bug hunting * Michael Nascimento discovered a memory leak in Editor ([9]#183296). He shared with us two message.log files and heap dumps and his help was essential in finding that some listener was not weak which lead to the OOME. Great job Michael! * Power users like Eric Smith can no longer run into a deadlocked IDE which could happen if you switch users with different access rights. Eric reported that if UI Gestures Collector could not open its files, IDE became unresponsive ([10]#183331). We fixed it today. * Michel Graciano focused on tooltips and found out that there is no preview for folded code anymore ([11]#183120), sidebar popup shows no diff ([12]#183362) and tooltip evaluation of statements during debugging does not work as well ([13]#183305). We are looking into all of these regressions. * Glenn Holmer keeps cooperating with us on finding the root cause for the unresponsive debugger ([14]#174668). Lately he was able to generate another profiler snapshot and attached it to similar issue [15]#182064 with short description of what he was doing. Thanks a lot Glenn! * Best bug reporter of the previous week was again Eric Smith, this time with 21 submitted issues mainly against Ruby. * Some of you might have already noticed that we started waiving nasty P2 bugs (e.g. [16]#137829). Unfortunately these are typically quite complex and/or dangerous issues plus we don't have enough resources to focus on fixing them. If this happens to your bugs, please don't take it personally ;-) because we will return to them after 6.9 is out. Thanks for your understanding. 4. Statistics Bugs submitted: 478 (+108) Open bugs: 241 (4/14/217/6) E-mails: 506 (+117) Thank you all for your help! Best regards, -Jirka References Visible links 1. http://wiki.netbeans.org/OSGiUserStories 2. http://wiki.netbeans.org/OSGiUserStories 3. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183017 4. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=182673 5. https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=platform&component=Options%26Settings&short_desc=%5B69cat%5D%20 6. https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=platform&component=Options%26Settings&short_desc=%5B69cat%5D%20 7. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183217 8. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183240 9. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183296 10. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183331 11. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183120 12. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183362 13. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=183305 14. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=174668 15. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=182064 16. http://netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=137829

Thursday, March 3, 2011

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============================================================================================================================ My sense of this thread is that some people are arguing that "species pages " would be time consuming to create, aren't much good for taxonomists (to quote Mike Dallwitz "In brief, to make simplified and attractive information about taxa easily available to casual users?"), and nobody gets credit for making them. In short, "they're not for me, I don't get credit for making them, so why bother?" Others (e.g., Doug Yanega) see species pages -- properly constructed -- to be a research tool. If we extend this to its logical conclusion, we could envisage these pages being the primary source of information on taxa. Indeed, new taxa could be described in this way. In short, "this is the future of taxonomic publication". One obvious way to realise species pages sensu Doug is using a wiki, but then there are those that horrified by the prospect of just "anyone" being able to edit that content. In short, "wikis are not for serious people, the ignorant might mess up my stuff". Others have had a more positive experience. I realise this doesn't do justice to these positions, but this make things a little concrete, I've put together a demo based on a wiki I'm constructing. The aim of this wiki is to link together taxonomic names, specimens, images, classifications, publications, phylogeny, people in one place. It's a bit like a wiki version of my Elsevier Challenge entry http://iphylo.org/~rpage/challenge/www/ . This is some way off being ready for prime time, but I thought it might be useful to show the sort of thing that can be done. As a starting point, /itaxon.org/wikidev/Chromis_circumaurea is a page about Chromis circumaurea, one of the fish Rich Pyle et al recently described in Zootaxa. This page contains a map and some specimen images, and an abbreviated description copied from the Zootaxa article. The images and the map are generated automaticaly by the wiki, based on the links it has to the specimens, e.g. http://itaxon.org/wikidev/BMNH_2007.10.31.3 http://itaxon.org/wikidev/USNM_391138_%28Fishes%29 The USNM specimen is linked to a GenBank sequence http://itaxon.org/wikidev/EU358583 . Specimens themselves are linked to Museum collections (using data from http://biocol.org ). The name itself is linked to a publication http://itaxon.org/wikidev/Jacc:1175-5326:1671%403 which is also linked to the authors. The wiki supports GUIDs, so that you can link to the page about Chromis circumaurea using it's ZooBank LSID, for example: http://itaxon.org/wikidev/Urn:lsid:zoobank.org:act:8ADC4817-8F1C-4C88-8B8A-5372A84CAEC9 What I hope this crude example demonstrates is a framework where we can support all the kinds of objects we care about, and easily create links between them that can generate useful information. For example, the page for Chromis circumaurea doesn't explicitly list the images shown, they are there because of the links between Chromis circumaurea, the specimens, and the images of those specimens. The same applies to the map. What this means is that very little information needs be entered, it's mostly a matter of joining the dots. Note that these wiki pages already have more information than either iSpecies ( http://ispecies.org/?q=Chromis+circumaurea ) or EOL (http://www.eol.org/pages/209986 ) This example has been assembled by hand, but much of the data required can be entered automatically (e.g., for sequences, specimens, publications, etc.), and tools such as text mining or XML markup (e.g., TaxonX) could be easily exploited. I also realise that the demos as it stands as very limited information about the organism itself, but I don't this this as intractable. If we could build things like this (and I believe we can, with a lot less effort than might be thought), is this the kind of "species page " that would be useful? Regards Rod PS If you're curious about the ideas behind this wiki, you'l find some background at http://iphylo.blogspot.com/search?q=wiki --------------------------------------------------------- Roderic Page Professor of Taxonomy DEEB, FBLS Graham Kerr Building University of Glasgow Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK Email: r.p ... @bio.gla.ac.uk Tel: +44 141 330 4778 Fax: +44 141 330 2792 AIM: rodp ... @aim.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1112517192 Twitter: http://twitter.com/rdmpage Blog: http://iphylo.blogspot.com Home page : http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/rod.html _______________________________________________ Taxacom Mailing List Taxa ... @mailman.nhm.ku.edu http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/mailman/listinfo/taxacom The entire Taxacom Archive back to 1992 can be searched with either of these methods: http://taxacom.markmail.org Or use a Google search specified as: site:mailman.nhm.ku.edu/pipermail/taxacom your search terms here Name: TorK Version: 0.31 Type: KDE Networking Tool Depend: KDE 3.5.x License: GPL Homepage: http://tork.sf.net More Info: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39442 Description: TorK is an Anonymity Manager for KDE. For information about Tor: http://tor.eff.org TorK allows you to configure, run and update Tor. It also allows you to view the Tor network and choose how you would like to interact with the network. TorK contains a number of unique/useful features: * A graph of your tor and non-tor traffic. * A quickstart page for launching torified applications.         See https://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=159836 * A hidden services wizard that allows you to create and publish hidden services. * A drag-and-drop view of the Tor network. Create, modify and close circuits. Attach and detach streams manually from circuits. Click on servers to view their full details. * Exit node blocking/preferring by country and server name.  See https://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=159836&ssid=45119 * Tor and Non-Tor traffic logs - showing you the traffic that is going through Tor and the traffic that is not. The Tor traffic log maintains a record of the circuit you used for each connection. Both logs are maintained in memory only and can be flushed by the user at any time. * A turn-on-and-off-able mini-view that shows you the traffic currently going through Tor - including destination, status, and exit node's name and country. * Passive pop-ups alerting you to important Tor events, such as changes to  your server status, DNS leaks, errors reported by Tor. * Quick configuration - six default configurations available for getting Tor running the simple and easy way. * Full access to all Tor configuration options. Changelog: 2008-01-29 Robert Hogan TorK 0.31 Bug Fixes/Feature Fixes o Major update to German Translation from Hans-J. Ullrich o Boilerplate Greek Translation o Boilerplate Spanish Translation o Allow proxy ports up to 99999. Bug reported by anonym. o Allow MapAddress configurations to apply properly. o Modify 18x12 icons to 16x16 and so prevent packaging violations in Debian and Suse. Thanks to Marek Stopka and Patrick Matthai for pointing this out. o Fix so that downloading of experimental vs stable tor works properly again. o Don't crash if /dev/*/statistics/read does not exist. o Always update new server info o Fallback to default ORPort and Dirport if UPNP configured but unavailable o Prevent Tor from reloading torrc on sighup. 2008-10-21 Robert Hogan TorK 0.30 Bug Fixes/Feature Fixes o If firstrun wizard cancelled, then cancel out of TorK and re-run it next time Tor is run. o Detect netfilter properly on more recent linux kernels. o German Translation updated by "Hans-J. Ullrich" o Remove 'Change Identity' from main toolbar. It's available in the OSD and the systray menu instead. o Always de-configure server if 'Client' option selected. o Wait twenty seconds before assuming there is a problem connecting to Tor. o Improve the handling of tor installations in the first run wizard o Make stream-handling much more efficient for heavy loads o Fix http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502155 Minor Features o Add warning when tork is configured to expect privoxy to be running at startup but there is no sign of it o Add feature to let Tor shut down gracefully. o Ensure server settings are set correctly when launching Tor from Tork (as opposed to just connecting). o Add option to toggle between display of IP address and server name in server list. o Only display konqueror in application list if it exists. Known Bug Not Fixed Yet: o If router discovered and connecting to remote/local tor, server settings may be applied even if user requests not to. _______________________________________________ Kde-announce-apps mailing list Kde- ... @kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-announce-apps

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Wednesday, March 2, 2011

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=================================================================================================================== The Decision namely states that there are two ways to appeal it, and I believed that it was very clear from my letter which option I chose. I believe Leif is appealing the Chairs' decision as per: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#WGAppeals 3.5 Appeal of a Chair's Decision Groups resolve issues through dialog. Individuals who disagree strongly with a decision SHOULD register with the Chair any Formal Objections< http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#FormalObjection > (e.g., to a decision made as the result of a vote< http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#Votes >). When group participants believe that their concerns are not being duly considered by the group, they MAY ask the Director< http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/organization.html#def-Director > (for representatives of a Member organization, via their Advisory Committee representative) to confirm or deny the decision. The participants SHOULD also make their requests known to the Team Contact< http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#TeamContact >. The Team Contact MUST inform the Director when a group participant has raised concerns about due process. Any requests to the Director to confirm a decision MUST include a summary of the issue (whether technical or procedural), decision, and rationale for the objection. All counter-arguments, rationales, and decisions MUST be recorded. Since Leif is an Invited Expert in the HTML WG he is entitled to send this appeal to the Director via the Team Contact. /paulc Paul Cotton , Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329 -----Original Message----- From: Leif Halvard Silli [mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:02 AM To: Philippe Le Hegaret Cc: Michael Smith; HTML WG; Sam Ruby; Maciej Stachowiak; Paul Cotton ;www- ... @w3.org Subject: Re: Letter to the Team Contact - ISSUE-30. Hi Philippe, I don't know if your question perhaps indicate yet another unclarity in the decision document. The Decision namely states that there are two ways to appeal it, and I believed that it was very clear from my letter which option I chose. From the Decision: ]] Appealing this Decision If anyone feels they have not received due process, or that their concerns have not being duly considered in the course of reaching this decision, they may make their concerns known to the Team Contact (Mike Smith) who will notify the Director. If anyone strongly disagrees with the content of the decision and would like to raise a Formal Objection, they may do so at this time. Formal Objections are reviewed by the Director in consultation with the Team. Ordinarily, Formal Objections are only reviewed as part of a transition request. In the case of this issue, the Chairs have agreed to forward Formal Objections right away for expedited processing. Anyone who would like to take either of these steps should first read the Review of Arguments Presented, below. [[ By the use of the phrase "either of these steps", the decision expresses that there are more than one way to appeal the Decision. According to my reading, the Decision describes two ways: EITHER one may make the concerns known to the Team Contact Mike Smith OR one may file a Formal Objection. I have chosen the first option, and I now expect the Team Contact to take up my concerns with the Director. I am not certain what the Director then is supposed to do. But my hope is that he agrees with my concerns, and that he have the power to rescind the Decision and (or) instruct the co-chairs to rescind their Decision and draft a new Decsision where they look at the issue anew and where the concerns that I take up are given the treatment that should be expected. I don't mind if the Decision is dropped altogether - a new or supplemental change proposal process can be initiated before a new Decision is formulated. Are my expectations about what the Director has the power to do too high or wrong? I have not formulated a Formal Objection, because I don't want to use that instrument when the problem simply is that the Decision on several levels is incomplete. (And I am not alone in questioning the quality of this Decision. [1]) A Formal Objection if this initiative does not lead anywhere, is of course a possibility, which I haven't considered yet. Leif [1] http://burningbird.net/node/118 Philippe Le Hegaret, Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:54:22 -0400: Hi Leif, are you raising a formal objection to issue-30? Philippe On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 15:23 +0200, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: Mike Smith, I write to you as Team Contact, about my concerns with regard to the HTMLwg Decision on ISSUE-30: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/att-0112/issue-30-decision A CC goes out to the HTMLwg co-chairs, to public-html@ and www-archive@ My time is limited, so if you feel that some issues are under-documented, then please tell me and allow me to follow up. Concerns -------- 1) Errors in the decision document The are many errors in the decision document - some of which the chairs have already admitted to. The document fails to make an accurate summary of many many things. Examples: Firefox is listed as a "successful" implementation of @longdesc, despite that Jon's objection state the opposite. And a few successful implementations that _are_ listed in the objections, are omitted as such examples in the decision document: Jaws, iCab. And Charles's presentation of @longdesc (in his objection to the zero-change proposal), is presented as if he says that @longdesc is the only way to technically link to a long description. These and a few other errors (which probably are just errors and not conscious errors) are easy to check simply by reading the relevant objections and proposals, undermines the trust in the decision as a whole. 2) Criteria for use of certain words The decision demands things of the change proposers and objectors, which the decision fails to live up to itself. One of those demands are very specific criteria for the use of certain words. Example: the decision (unduly, in my view) complains about lack of definition of «the adjective "successfully"» (which is a an adverb, btw ...). However, the decision itself operates with several words for which it provides no criteria. Examples: 'use case' and 'require'. It is entirely unclear what kind of 'use case' the document wants, though, for the most part, the document seems to look for technical reasons to have @longdesc. To my mind HTML4 describes a use case: [1] "a link to a long description of the image. This description should supplement the short description provided using the alt attribute.". There are no links in HTML4 or HTML5 other than @longdesc that have this semantic. As such it @longdesc is required. (The proposal to keep @longdesc duly links to HTML4, and so the decision have every reason to discuss what HTML4 says - but fails to do so.) 3) Concerns not being duly considered Example: Longdesc link rot was cited as a problem both in the objections, in the zero-change proposal _and_ in the decision document. In my objection, I pointed out that this - in a way - automatically becomes solved as soon as @longdesec is made valid: by making @longdesc un-obsolete, HTML5 conformance checkers must - obviously - start to conformance check the @longdesc URL. (Explanation: in the HTML4 validator, no URL validity checking is performed whatsoever, whereas validator.nu does check URLs, as long as the attribute isn't obsolete.) I filed a bug about this, to make sure that conformance checkers would do this, and the link to the bug is in my objection. However, not a single time does the decision document that it has considered this simple and obvious argument. Instead, the decision document states it to be "uncontested" that "more work is needed to make longdesc useful". However such a general statement is hardly relevant when the required work, at the most basic level, simply involves moving @longdesc from the list of obsolete attributes to the list of valid attributes. 4) No evaluation of @longdesc from a semantic angle This goes back to my 'use case' critique under 2) above. In the subsequent debate, I took up an idea that I picked up from Lachlan. Namely that rel="londesc" (short description) many times could be used as a replacement for the @longdesc attribute. (The exception being when there is already a link on the IMG. Another exception is on iframe elements, which HTML4 also allows: the element is not allowed to be a wrapper around an iframe element.) The response has been that rel="longdesc" is worth looking into. If we see @longdesc as shorthand for the - yet undefined - rel="longdesc" micro format, then should be obvious that the issue is about semantics. (In my objection, I compare @longdesc with a special kind of link, although I fail to mention the rel="longdesc" parallel.) However, the only time the decision uses the string "semantic" is when it states the following: "A number of use cases for semantically rich, structured descriptions of images were provided, however those use cases are abstract and don't directly and specifically require the support of a longdesc attribute". By this definition, then even what HTML4 says about @longdesc is abstract! Apart from the situations when already has a link as well as the use case (see above), then it is probably impossible to find concrete examples of use cases when it is _technically_ impossible to solve the problem unless the language includes @longdesc. However, _semantically_ the language currently has no other method than @longdesc for solving the issue. But I look in vain for a discussion of this problem in the decision document. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/objects.html#adef-longdesc-IMG This letter of concern is mostly a summary of points I have made in the following letters: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/0117 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/0119 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/0128 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/0129 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/0140 With regards, Leif Halvard Silli HTML WG Invited Expert